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how to stop scrolling: 6 tactics, from phone distance to deleting the apps

November 7, 202613 min read
“I just ripped the Band-Aid off”
Sam Harris, Huberman Lab

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the six tactics

01

treat the phone as a plasticity threat: Andrew Huberman on Huberman Lab

12 tactics in ~86 minutes (5143s). 3.2M views on YouTube, per the Podex page. a solo Huberman lecture on how the adult brain changes. this play is tactic 06, Treat Your Phone As A Plasticity Threat.

Huberman's diagnosis is blunt. many people, on the transcript, "have given themselves a low-grade ADHD or ADD because of the way that they move through their world." the phone makes that easy: it is small, so your eyes lock on it, and "a movie is worth 10,000 pictures," so motion on a feed beats words on a page.

the tactic: make the phone hard to reach while you work. for a focused bout he turns the Wi-Fi off and says "I put my phone in the other room." if he still walks back: "I will take the phone and lock it in the car outside." he has gone further: "I've thrown it up on my roof before so I can't get to it until the end of the day." his line on why: "That thing is pretty compelling."

try this week: for one work block a day, put the phone in another room before you start. if you still fetch it, lock it in a car, drawer or upstairs for the rest of that block.

Tactic 01

Andrew Huberman, Huberman Lab

Converge Your Eyes To Trigger The Plasticity Chemicals

The play

Converge your eyes on one small blank point for 60 to 120 seconds before you start any focused work session.

Andrew Huberman says

I converge my eyes inward on a single point to narrow my visual field. That narrowing releases acetylcholine and epinephrine at the brain sites that control plasticity.

Try this

Converge your eyes on one small blank spot before a learning session to trigger the focus chemicals.

From How to Focus to Change Your Brain →
02

keep only VIP notifications: Dr. Sahar Yousef on The Diary of a CEO

12 tactics in ~135 minutes (8094s). 2.1M views on YouTube, per the Podex page. Yousef runs the Becoming Superhuman Lab at UC Berkeley. this play is tactic 04, Configure VIP Notifications. grayscale (tactic 03) is covered in our focus post; this one is the unused layer.

Yousef's point is that attention dies under constant pings. on the transcript she says attention has been "linearly decreasing since the advent of this thing," and it is not only phones: "it's notifications in general." when people fear missing a real emergency, she does not tell them to suffer. she gives them a filter.

the tactic: set VIP notifications, and silence the rest. "I would recommend setting up what I call VIP notifications" on the phone, inbox and chat apps. VIPs are partner, boss, top clients: the people who get to knock. everything else goes in the mailbox. her shorthand elsewhere: "turn the notifications off" and "put your phone outta sight, outta mind."

try this week: make a VIP list of five people. allow only those numbers and emails to break through Do Not Disturb. silence every other app for seven days.

03

delete the apps and lose the password: Ryan Holiday on The Diary of a CEO

12 tactics in ~86 minutes (5158s). 1.6M views on YouTube, per the Podex page. Holiday writes on Stoicism. this play is tactic 06, Delete The Apps And Lose The Password, with tactic 12 (the phone-free walk) as the replacement.

Holiday watches people pick up a fight they did not need. on the transcript: "they took up the phone and they scrolled through" and the phone "magically serves up the outrage." his own fix is structural, not motivational: "I don't have any of them on my phone either" and "I don't know the password to the Daily stoic or my personal Twitter account." if he needs to post, someone else does it. his reason: "I have enough inputs."

the tactic: delete the social apps, and lose the login. then replace the reflex with a walk. every morning he tries to go outside with his kids: "I try not to bring the phone."

try this week: delete one social app from your phone. change the password to something you do not know, stored with a partner or password manager you will not open casually. take one walk a day without the phone.

04

rip the Band-Aid off the platform that owns you: Sam Harris on Huberman Lab

12 tactics in ~262 minutes (15715s). 1.5M views on YouTube, per the Podex page. Harris is a neuroscientist and meditation teacher. this play is tactic 03, Rip The Band-Aid Off Social Media. Twitter was his only real platform.

Harris did not taper. on the transcript: "Twitter was me, for better or worse," and it had become his news feed and first point of contact. then, on Thanksgiving, with almost no deliberation: "I just ripped the Band-Aid off." the result: "There's no question there's an addictive component to it." the feeling after: "It was like I amputated a phantom limb."

the tactic: leave the one platform that runs your mood. he was not looking for a substitute. he closed the account that was him, and let the phantom limb go quiet.

try this week: name the one app that most owns your mood. delete it from the phone for seven days, or deactivate the account. do not install a replacement the same week.

05

put the phone away in nature, and audit the scroll: Robert Greene on Modern Wisdom

10 tactics in ~141 minutes (8466s). 137K views on YouTube, per the Podex page. Greene is the author of The 48 Laws of Power and Sublime. this play is tactic 05, Put Your Phone Away In Nature, plus tactic 10, Audit Your Own Scroll For Emotional Manipulation.

Greene's complaint is flatness. on the transcript: "everything has been flattened out by social media." he looks at his Instagram feed of cat videos and says after the third one "it's all programs, it's all algorithms." later he catches himself: watching animal clips, he notices "it's an emotional thing that it's playing on."

the tactic: put the phone away outside, then watch what the feed does to you. riding in Griffith Park he sees people glued to earphones and says "when you're out in nature you can put your phone away." the indoor version is the audit: notice which posts make you angry or fascinated on purpose, and step back before you react.

try this week: take one walk or park visit with the phone in a bag, not in your hand. the next time you open a feed, pause after three posts and name the emotion it is trying to pull.

06

go to zero social media if the noise is still too high: Dr. Ralph Adolphs on Huberman Lab

7 tactics in ~130 minutes (7770s). 122K views on YouTube, per the Podex page. Adolphs is a Caltech neuroscientist who studies emotion. this play is tactic 06, Eliminate Social Media To Reduce Mental Noise.

Huberman names the problem mid-conversation. on the transcript: "It's called social media." Adolphs: "Exactly. Yes. Of which I have none." his rule is absolute: "Not on X, I'm not on Facebook, I'm not on Instagram." when people offer LinkedIn, he says "Why would I be? I'm already above 100% in terms of people emailing me. I don't need more." he wants the quiet needed to train emotional control: if you are "constantly bombarded," you never get that leisure.

the tactic: go to zero social media on purpose. not a detox weekend. a standing decision that your inputs are already full.

try this week: pick one week with no social apps and no social sites in the browser. keep email and messages. notice what you reach for when the feed is gone.

a one-week plan to stop scrolling

pick by problem

Huberman LabFREE

you keep walking back to the phone during work: Andrew Huberman.

the play: put it in another room, then lock it further away if you still fetch it. [open on Podex](https://www.getpodex.com/episodes/how-to-focus-to-change-your-brain)

The Diary of a CEOFREE

pings keep yanking you mid-task: Dr. Sahar Yousef.

the play: allow only VIP notifications, silence everything else. [open on Podex](https://www.getpodex.com/episodes/no-1-neuroscientist-reveals-how-to-unlock-superhuman-focus-perfect-memory-dr-sah)

The Diary of a CEOFREE

social apps live on your home screen: Ryan Holiday.

the play: delete them and lose the password so posting needs someone else. [open on Podex](https://www.getpodex.com/episodes/the-discipline-expert-2-000-years-of-research-proves-successful-people-do-one-th)

Huberman LabFREE

one platform runs your mood: Sam Harris.

the play: rip the Band-Aid off and leave that platform for a week. [open on Podex](https://www.getpodex.com/episodes/using-meditation-to-focus-view-consciousness-expand-your-mind-dr-sam-harris)

Modern WisdomFREE

outside time still includes a scroll: Robert Greene.

the play: put the phone away in nature, then audit how the feed pulls emotion. [open on Podex](https://www.getpodex.com/episodes/why-life-loses-its-magic-how-to-get-it-back-robert-greene)

Huberman LabFREE

everything still feels too loud: Dr. Ralph Adolphs.

the play: go to zero social media and keep email only. [open on Podex](https://www.getpodex.com/episodes/neuroscience-of-emotions-tools-for-improving-emotion-regulation-dr-ralph-adolphs)

what this is not

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FAQ

How do I stop scrolling on my phone?

Change the defaults around the phone. Put it in another room during work (Andrew Huberman), allow only VIP notifications (Dr. Sahar Yousef), delete the social apps and lose the password (Ryan Holiday), and replace the reflex with a phone-free walk (Holiday and Robert Greene).

How do I stop phone addiction?

Treat the phone as a plasticity threat, not a mute button: physical distance first, then fewer pings, then fewer apps. Sam Harris's version for a platform that owns your mood is to rip the Band-Aid off and leave it. Dr. Ralph Adolphs goes further and runs zero social media.

Does grayscale help you stop scrolling?

Dr. Sahar Yousef says people in her lab who kept phones in grayscale for three weeks spent about an hour less per day on them. That play is written up in our how to improve focus post. This post adds her VIP notifications layer on top.

What is a dopamine detox for phones?

Andrew Huberman describes protecting your dopamine baseline by cutting a big spike habit (phone, games, social media) for a stretch, and expects the first days to feel hard. We cover that baseline play in how to improve focus. Today's tactics are the practical cuts around apps and notifications.

How do I stop doomscrolling at night?

Combine distance and deletion. Charge the phone outside the bedroom (covered in our focus and procrastinating posts), silence non-VIP alerts, and delete the feed apps that open on autopilot. Robert Greene's add-on: if you need evening air, take it without the phone in your hand.

Should I quit social media completely?

Not always. Ryan Holiday deletes the apps and loses the password but can still post through someone else. Sam Harris left the one platform that was him. Dr. Ralph Adolphs runs zero social media because his inputs were already over 100%. Start with the smallest cut that changes your week.

What are the best podcast episodes about scrolling and phone addiction?

Andrew Huberman's How to Focus to Change Your Brain, Dr. Sahar Yousef on The Diary of a CEO, Ryan Holiday on The Diary of a CEO, Sam Harris on Huberman Lab, Robert Greene on Modern Wisdom and Dr. Ralph Adolphs on Huberman Lab.