How Jev Turns AI Into Software That Gets Things Done

7 plays for turning AI into software that actually gets things done. The unlock isn't a smarter chatbot, it's building intelligence into the guts of the system so reliably that a developer can program against it without checking its work.

With Diego

"Where the [ __ ] is all the automation? AI is so unbelievably smart and yet it's so useless at all other stuff." — Diego

Diego, on the episode

Diego is the founder of Typesafe, the company behind Jev, sitting down to explain why he thinks AI has been shipped in the night with software instead of actually inside it. The pop framing of AI tools is that they write code faster, a faster human replacement typing the same code a person would have typed anyway. The operating system Diego is actually running is different: Jev is a primitive you embed inside a program, a classifier with a state machine and confidence levels, so software itself gains new capabilities instead of just getting typed out quicker. He traces this back to a specific frustration at OpenAI, watching RLHF generalize beautifully while real automation, the boring stuff like customer service, stayed stuck. This conversation pulls out how he thinks about reliability, where coding agents are actually useful versus dangerous, and when automation is worth building at all.